Welcome to Dogs: Beyond the Lab
Dogs: Beyond the Lab
Dogs: Beyond the Lab

Dogs: Beyond the Lab

Tens of thousands of dogs are still part of laboratory research in the United States and Canada. A small number of them make it out.

After years, they leave research facilities and enter a world they were never prepared for: sanctuaries, foster homes, adoption, backyards, neighborhood walks, choices, freedom — and a chance to discover who they are beyond the lab.

What follows is the part most people never see: the delicate process of learning how to live in a world that is entirely new. At the heart of this, is the people willing to walk through it all with them — their first real family.

This story is about former research beagles and their people, but it is also about something bigger. It's about what each of our dogs ask of us, and who we become in the process.

About the Hosts

John Ramer

John has spent years providing sanctuary and finding homes for animals retired from research. As Executive Director of the nation's largest sanctuary focused on former research animals, he creates real pathways out of the lab — working with lawmakers on policy, collaborating with veterinarians, institutions, and organizations seeking humane options once their work is done.

Lori Cohen

Lori has spent years bringing national attention to animal research in Canada. As the leader of Canada's only nonprofit focused exclusively on former research beagles, she facilitates placement pathways through advocacy, public education, and direct work around rehoming and transition — and is deeply committed to supporting fosters and adopters throughout the process.

Chelsey Marino

Chelsey is a Behavior Specialist and Co-Founder of Keeper & Kin — North America's only training and rehabilitation program built specifically for former research dogs. Her expertise is trusted by veterinarians, rescue organizations, and professionals handling some of the most severe behavioral cases across the U.S. and Canada.

Recent Episodes

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Aug. 3, 2026

Melanie Kaplan: Lab Beagles, Legislation, and Love

Melanie Kaplan shares what she uncovered about industrial-scale facilities, the gaps in animal-welfare enforcement, and the promise—and slow adoption—of non-animal research methods. It’s an honest conversation about grief, investigative journalism, advocacy, and why Hammy’s story still matters.
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July 21, 2026

Snooper Star: Luke Toennies on his Beagle Snoop

Luke Toennies tells the story of adopting Snoop, a former research beagle. Luke initially reached out to the Beagle Alliance after losing his dog Leo.
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July 6, 2026

Ginny & Celie: Trust, Patience, and a Beagle Doing Things Her Way

David and Ginny share their adoption and rehabilitation of Celie, a severely fearful former research beagle from Kindness Ranch. They describe choosing Celie, her initial terror at the ranch and home, and the slow work to build trust through routine, “place” training, and positive games like “boop” and ball play. Bowman, their calm older beagle, served as a critical mentor, helping Celie gain confidence.
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June 22, 2026

Rob Sturman & Otis: Compassion, Art, Activism

This week's episode features photographer/activist Robert Sturman, and of course, his good pal Otis - a former research hound. Robert shares how early exposure to the realities of animal testing shaped his compassion, eventually leading him to adopt Otis after seeing him through Beagle Freedom Project. While Otis is still triggered by loud noises like trains and fireworks, Rob explains all the ways he and Otis help each other every day.